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Middle-East Peace is Tougher Than I Thought!
Allan , London: Mar 15 2009
Made Popular Mar 16 2009

Middle-East Peace is Tougher Than I Thought!

I’m still working on that Middle-East peace thing I told you I would solve.

But God Dammit, it’s a tough one!

The main problem lies with Arab culture, and it’s not going to get any better anytime soon!

Now call me a racists, or call me a politically incorrect idiot, or anything else you care to throw my way, but no matter how you look at it a lot of the problem in the Middle-East stems from the Arab cultural trait of saying one thing and meaning another. Or saying one thing, and then doing something else entirely because it seems more expedient at that particular moment.

Listen folks, you can condemn me from here to eternity for saying this, but I have worked with-and-for Arabs a long time now. (We have a large Arab population here in London.) Plus my wife spent a few years in Saudi Arabia, so we know the Arab mentality quite well!

Believe me, when negotiating with an Arab, honesty and personal integrity don’t amount to a hill of beans. (But please don’t confuse integrity with “honor,” that’s a whole different ball-game!)

What I’m saying is that you better be aware of the fluidity of the Arab mind if you don’t want to get taken to the cleaners and then dragged down the street and thrown into a dumpster before you even realize that negotiations have started!

The whole mindset of these people is “winning,” not “playing fair!”

Once again, you might call me a racist for saying this, but it is NOT a racial trait amongst the Arabs.

It’s a cultural one!

So I guess you could call me a “Culturalist!”

Whatever you do want to call it, that’s what is making peace over there so damned hard.

The ground rules keep changing depending on the circumstances.

(Because of this attitude, that’s why we see the Arab fighting with the Israeli, and then, when that dies down, they start fighting amongst themselves. Sunni against Shi’a, Shi’a against Sunni, Sunni and Shi’a against the Sufi and then all of them against The Bahá’í, The Druze and the Zoroastrians.)

Wheeeee!

Little wonder things never settle down!

This brings me to the United States of America.

After the Iraq war nearly bankrupted the country, President Obama is pulling out, and not a moment too soon.

But!

He is talking about an increase in troops in Afghanistan, and that would be a big mistake to think that a war can be won there.

NOBODY has conquered Afghanistan in all of recorded history kids!

You have a bunch of mountain tribes that make the hillbilly’s of Kentucky seem like an enlightened bunch, and on top of that they are tough, mean, superstitious, ready to fight at the drop of a hat and just generally disagreeable.

The British couldn’t tame that country.

The Russians couldn’t do it.

NATO won’t do it either.

Period.

Want some advice?

Leave them alone and try to keep them isolated as much as possible.

Just make sure not too much opium gets smuggled out.

Other than that, you’re no better off than gettin’ spit at by a camel!

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Michael Davison
Raanana, Israel
What would be easier?

A woman was walking along the beach when she stumbled upon a bottle. She picked it up and rubbed it, and lo-and-behold a Genie appeared.

The amazed woman asked if she got three wishes. The Genie said, ”Nope, sorry, three-wish genies are a myth. I’m a one-wish genie. So . . . what’ll it be?”

The woman didn’t hesitate. She said, ”I want peace in the Middle East. See this map? I want these countries to stop fighting with each other and I want all the Arabs to love Jews and Americans and vice-versa. It will bring about world peace and harmony.”

The Genie looked at the map and exclaimed, ”Lady, be reasonable! These countries have been at war for thousands of years. I’m out of shape after being in a bottle for five hundred years. I’m good but not THAT good! I don’t think it can be done. Make another wish and please be reasonable.”

The woman thought for a minute and said, ”Well, I’ve never be able to find the right man. You know, one that’s considerate and fun, likes to cook and helps with the housecleaning, is great in bed, gets along with my family, doesn’t watch sports all the time, and is faithful. That’s what I wish for . . a good man

The Genie let out a long sigh, shook his head and said ”Let me see that stupid map again.”
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Sanwali
Shimla, India
Good one! :)

The bottom line is: its difficult to get peace in Mideast but impossible to find a good man...hmm.
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Kyle
New York, United States
Good joke Michael,

There shall be no peace so long as an inch of Palestinian land continues to be occupied. Most Palestinians feel that way...and by Palestinian land, they mean by the '67 borders. As for Lebanon, peace will be had when Israel vacates the Golan Heights...

And Israel won't do either. Hamas won't stop its suicide bombings and Hezbollah will continue to launch rocket attacks if Israel won't agree. It's a vicious circle, all the sides are equally guilty.
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Roger
Vancouver, Canada
There will never be peace in the middle-east. There are schools in the middle-east that teach the kids songs about martyrdom and being crusaders and such. There would have to be a huge miracle. These people have been fighting for centuries and will continue to do so. It is all they have known
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Grubbanax
Perth, Australia
The whole situation is a positive feedback cycle. All sides respond to an attack with an even greater attack. The presence of extremists on one side makes it seem to another side that extremism is necessary. Stopping it would be like stopping an avalanche.

Lasting peace may require some structural changes, aside from whatever violence people are considering adding to the mix. These structural changes- e.g. educating the Palestinians, economic diversification of oil exporters- will take time, and probably pressure/incentives from the outside, as well.

I hope that people will have the patience and the will to enact these changes and slow the escalation of violence.
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Michael
London, United Kingdom
The problem in the Middle East is not lack of peace.

The problem is the existence, and lately even prosperity, of massive terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, who were ignored for too long, to the point they have become a dominant political force: Hamas is currently controlling Gaza, Hezbollah is a dominant Lebanese political party.
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Michael Davison
Raanana, Israel
Kyle said:

”There shall be no peace so long as an inch of Palestinian land continues to be occupied. Most Palestinians feel that way...and by Palestinian land, they mean by the ’67 borders. As for Lebanon, peace will be had when Israel vacates the Golan Heights...”

Pardon me, but if you believe this, then you’re a fool. Just the other day, Hamas representatives said this in Cairo: “Fatah wants a government that accepts the two-state solution, and this is something that Hamas can’t and will never accept,” Nunu said. “We are prepared to accept a Palestinian state in the 1967 boundaries only as a temporary solution, without recognizing the Zionist occupation of any inch of our homeland.” (http://greywolf.instablogs.com/entry/hamas-says-no/)

As for Lebanon (you mean Hizballah), their ”glorious leader, Hassan Nasrallah sent a tape from his hiding place last week declaring that Hizballah would not accept the existence of Israel, ”Not now, not in 100 years, not even in 1,000 years”. It has nothing to do with the Golan Heights or the Shabaa farms, it has everything to do with pure hatred of anything non-Muslim by these groups.

Why don’t you learn something about the Middle East and the people there BEFORE you make comments like that?

N.B.: The Golan Heights were Syrian before 1967, not Lebanese.
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Wonda L
Earth, Canada
Michael
You know if you spent more time picking peoples good points to their posts ,more people might listen to your expertise ,but you seem to think to put someone down puts you in a higher light –very child like ,and if the negotiators talk like you no wonder there is no peace
Now i left errors for you to shoot me down
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Michael Davison
Raanana, Israel
Kyle made a stupid and ignorant statement that contradicts a lot of evidence in the field, and doesn’t even know that the Golan Heights was part of Syria and not Lebanon.

How do you suggest I comment on that?

Read the article I linked to– Hamas doesn’t want peace any more than you want to be a friend to anyone– if anything, less.

Here’s the link again: http://greywolf.instablogs.com/entry/hamas-says-no/

Read it and make up your own mind.
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Wonda L
Earth, Canada
MICHAEL
Let me explain myself in a more reasonable and no bias thought
Micheal reading your posts there is no doubt that you are very intelligent and knowageable on the middle east situations
The only thing i find is you have a hard time with peoples flaws and small ones seem to get to you
Forget peoples lack of understanding or their unintentional mistakes because when you get irritated or seem irritated than people miss your very knowledgeable responses and the ones that are capable of hears them will and the ones who don’t want to or can’t -well there is nothing you can do
Remember dislike can come in an instance but love or like takes time and forgiveness or overlooking is a gift
Micheal i know you have a sence of humor and i liked your two posts on my humor comments
Micheal my hand if out to you and i apologize for my bad taste comments on your serious issues
Take care Wayne
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Allan God-101.com
London, Canada
Boys, Boys! Try and get along! ;-)
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